Bassoon Reed Tuning Basics

What are the basics of tuning a bassoon reed?

In the simplest terms you manipulate the length, strength, tip opening and tapers of the reed blade. Adjustments of the reed will affect the tuning not only of individual notes but of entire registers and their pitch and response.

Another element that effects tuning is how far the reed fits on to the bocal. If it barely fits on the bocal, it has the same effect as playing on a longer bocal and is flat in pitch. If the reed fits deeper onto the bocal, it will raise the pitch and help certain notes play better in tune. Typically, the reed should fit at least 1/4″ or 6-7mm onto the bocal. It does not fit far enough onto the bocal the end of the reed needs to be opened up with a special tool called a reed reamer.

The design of the reed is also a huge factor. This includes the hardness of the cane, the blade taper (profile), the reed shape (narrow, curved, wide), and the spacing of the wires. Each of these factors influences the tuning of notes in different registers (high, middle, low notes).

What is the correct blade length?

What often determines the correct blade length is stability on key notes such as one finger E (3rd space bass clef) with proper pitch on all the other notes. Blades that are too long or reeds that lack sufficient strength often go flat on this E if played loudly. Cane that is too soft and reed shapes that are too wide often contribute to a sagging E.

The best measurement to use for the blade length is actually the measurement from the tip to the first wire, which includes the area of bark between the blade and the first wire, called the collar. This critical dimension is called the vibrating length. There is no correct vibrating length, but the length can range from 27 to 33 mm from the tip to the first wire. This depends largely on the design of reed and the amount of breath support (the force the player uses in blowing) and the position of the lips on the blade. Generally, a longer vibrating length will favor the low notes and may create problems for the high notes and vice versa: a shorter will favor the high notes. If you use strong breath support with thicker blades you can use longer lengths.

It is critical for the first wire to stay in position when the reed is wetted and ready to play. If it strays from this position, the vibrating length is changed and will create a flatter pitch and instability on some notes.

My personal reeds range from 28-28.5 mm and if my reeds don’t work for me at that length I set them aside. I know that my embouchure will tire or I will play out of tune if I’m way off from my vibrating length preference.

Some teachers insist on using a set blade length. This dogma makes for difficulties. When I first started making reeds my teacher told me to make all my blades exactly 1 inch in length. How wrong he was! He had me measuring from the tip of the blade to the ledge (edge of the collar and blade) where the scrape ends sloping up to the bark. But not to the wire. The space between the 1st wire varied from reed to reed, so my reeds all played quite differently. I had to reinvent my embouchure with every reed. Bummer!

So if my reeds all go flat on E what do I do? You mentioned both length and strength.

Yes, the blade needs more strength to support the E. So, you can try:

  • If the 1st wire near the blade has slipped back toward the 2nd it should be re-positioned. If it’s so loose that it won’t stay in position, the wire must be tightened with small pliers. Sometimes that’s enough to fix the sagging E.
  • Reshape the wires by pulling, rounding, and tightening the wires with pliers. This makes the inside of the reed’s tube more rounded giving the blade more arch and structural strength.
  • Squeeze the second wire from the sides and then follow by squeezing the 1st wire from the sides. Check that the tip opening doesn’t get too wide or close up completely when you’re done.

If that doesn’t do it, then the reed’s vibrating length (from the tip to the wire) and blade must be manipulated. You have a choice of:

  • If the collar is wide enough, re-position the wire closer to the tip and tighten it to stay in place.
  • Shorten the blade by clipping a small amount of the tip of the reed away. Cut only a very small amount at a time and recheck E after clipping. Bassoonists use special clippers to make this job easier.
  • A third choice is to narrow the width of the reed shape at the tip by sanding or filing the “rails” or along the whole length of the rails where the two blade halves come together. If a reed is extremely wide across the tip you may need to do this along with clipping. See diagram on right.
  • If you have to do too much work with every reed, consider changing to a different reed maker with a narrower or shorter reed style.

By clipping the reed tip back or narrowing the reed tip blade you are giving the blade more strength because it is thicker at the tip. If you keep clipping and clipping but the E keeps sagging, the cane may be too soft. Also the design of the reed may not be right for you with a throat diameter that is too big around. A reed tip that closes in the center first when squeezed between the fingers is a sure sign that it will be unstable on E. Correcting the problem may take several steps outlined in Preliminary Tuning Q & A.

If you can’t make any of these adjustments or you want to be sure that the E is stable, use the stabilizing fingering.

Many reeds purchased from music stores are poorly constructed. In a recent test, three reeds made by different manufacturers all purchased from a music store and labeled medium hard failed to play a stable E and the blades weren’t too long! No wonder so many of you are suffering with your reeds making it difficult to enjoy your bassooning. There are many choices available online with reeds of different styles and every bassoonist must experiment to find what works best.

Do store reeds come in different lengths as well as strengths?

No. If you buy from a reed maker who sells them directly to you it’s possible. Some companies will do custom reed work. However, reeds purchased from music stores can’t offer you lengths and apparently don’t really control the strength either.

How should I approach clipping the tip? Is there an easy way to do it?

The easiest way is to buy an expensive reed clipper which are available from double reed supply specialty shops. There are clipping devices and nippers sometimes referred to as precision end cutters. That’s what I use, but the really good jewelers end nippers cost about $75.00. The old fashioned way to cut tips was to purchase a billot made of wood (a cutting block) and take your reed scraping knife or razor blade and cut through the reed tip as it is laid across the billot. A big problem with these though, is that the top of the billot is usually curved, making it difficult to cut a straight tip. Some will file or sand the billot top until it’s flat and wide enough for the tip of the reed. That’s better, but we don’t recommend using a billot and knife.

The poor man’s version of the reed tip clipper can be effective and cheap. Buy a large thick guitar pick with a smooth surface on both sides and a single edge razor blade. Place the guitar pick on a flat surface, lay the reed tip on the guitar pick, align the razor blade with the tip with the amount of tip you want to cut off and press the razor blade straight down into the guitar pick with enough force to cut off the tip. It’s always best to take very small amounts off the tip and test your results. Taking too much off in one shot may leave the reed now too strong, requiring scrapes or sanding of the reed’s blade or additional wire adjustments.

What do I do with a reed that is too hard to blow or plays sharp? Should I pull out the bocal?

A reed that is too hard to blow can cause frustration for a beginning player. Try the following:

  • Try a narrower reed shape, which will blow more easily. These may be hard to find in a music store.
  • Thin the blade by sanding all over until it blows freely and the crow of the reed is lower.
  • If the tip is thick from clipping, sand the area at and behind the tip.
  • Manipulate the wires by flattening the blade arch. Squeeze the first wire from top and bottom to close the tip, followed by squeezing the second wire top/bottom which reopens the tip but makes it easier to blow. The average tip opening measures 1/16″ or 1.5mm in the center.
  • Check that the tip opening aperture is symmetrical and not puckered. The tip opening when squeezed shut should close gradually from the sides to the center. If the reed closes in the center first, it is a sure sign of the problem of unstable E, mentioned above. If the reed closes off center or if the opening itself is not symmetrical, see Preliminary Tuning Q & A.

These will all help lower the pitch, as well as the pitch of the reed’s crow. Pulling out the bocal may help lower the pitch but produces undesirable resistance in what should be a continuous conical bore. If you are playing on a #1 bocal, switch to a lower-pitched bocal (#2 or #3).

How much does the taper of the reed’s blade need to be manipulated?

That depends on your needs. Do the low notes speak, do the middle notes croak, do you tire or play out of tune, are other notes unstable?

At the very least the reed should be stable and the note next to the one finger E, the forked Eb, should not be sharp if fingered with only the first and third finger of the left hand with the whisper key. No added keys in either hand.

If you are having problems you’ll need to know how to fix these things if you want to advance as a bassoonist. Students need to know that it’s more important to know how to adjust a reed than to make one. Rather than waste your time making bad reeds due to inexperience, find a good reed maker whose reed style and reed shape works for you. Check out the Quick Guide to Bassoon Reed Tuning which is available from double reed specialty shops. Good luck with all your reeds!

How many reeds?

Dear S,

To answer your question about how many reeds should Daniel have? The reed issue is what our lives as bassoonists is about. The reeds change with the weather and the season and can break if dropped or bumped and crack for no obvious reason. Therefore, one can never have too many reeds. You never know when your favorite might be a “goner”. Usually three to six reeds that are playing can cover it. Some reeds wear out quickly, and others will play for months if kept clean and are dried out thoroughly in between playing sessions. Incidentally, the type of reed case that Daniel has will shorten reed life. Air cannot circulate through the wet reed placed on solid pins. A different/better reed case with good air circulation into and through the reed and case will help. When I was a senior in high school I won the solo concerto competition with the Tacoma Youth Philharmonic. On the evening of the concert my reed cracked nearly down the middle. I had only the one “playable” reed in my case and was forced to play through the biggest bassoon moment of my life with a destroyed reed. It was an embarrassment. Let’s say it wasn’t pretty. Daniel already has experienced the sudden loss of a “friend” when his reed was bumped in Seattle. Fortunately, he had a back up reed that was playable. He should not only have a case full of playable reeds at all times, but a “backup box” of playable reeds in a separate case for emergencies when the reed case is left at home or lost or the current reeds are not working well. (His current reed case could work for that.) The backup box stays in the case at all times. I keep the oldies (but goodies) in my case for emergencies as I have described above and do need to use them occasionally. I actually have several boxes including new reeds that I can finish scraping if needed.

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Buying a Bassoon Reed?

A Guide for the Beginning Player, Parents and Band Directors

Warning: Bassoon reeds are fragile, frustrating and expensive.

For anyone contemplating taking up the bassoon be aware that it’s going to be more costly than playing sax or clarinet, and for the majority of you, the reeds will be frustrating. Why? Because if you don’t have a decent performer/teacher of bassoon who makes and adjusts reeds as an advisor, you will be a the mercy of music store bassoon reeds. Many players (and some of my students) are perfectly happy with store bought reeds and unless you come up against technical challenges that hold you back, you won’t seek out the alternatives. My motto has been I’m only as good as my reed allows me to be. I’ve spent a lot of time trying to find the perfect reed. And I teach all my students how to evaluate and adjust the reed using my published methods. But in an instant, poof…it might crack and be a goner. Such is the life of a bassoonist. Start the search for the next one BEFORE you need it. Always have several good ones on hand. Since the reed cane itself varies so much in quality it you may find that only 1 in 5 reeds is acceptable and for professional players it may be 1 in 25 or more!

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Bassoon Reed Tuning Using Advanced Reed Design and Testing Procedure

Question from Greg, a student of Mark Eubanks:

I have been focusing on reeds as opposed to the exercises and have some questions. I am using your book as my main resource. Right now, I have a reed which I think is a great reed. I am able to go through the warm-up routine (all of it!) without flicking and croaking. I have some questions, though.

This reed passed Objective #1 (pg. 14). On Objective #2 Eb was sharp so I added the 2nd finger and Bb key r.h. It was in tune at that time. Am I supposed to scrape regardless of the correction or can I move on to Objective #3 (Tuning Harmonics)? I went into Objective #3 and everything seemed fine. At Objective #4 (the Ab/Bb trill test) I am not sure if I am doing the fingerings correctly because I am getting a gargling sound on the trill Bb. I don’t want to do any correction to the reed because it seems to be doing so well in spite of this problem. I have not gone on to Objective #5 and 6. Is it required to go into Objectives #5 and 6 (if the reed is responding well) to go on and make necessary corrections? Does every reed have to go through the entire circle of objectives?

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